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Martin Lefebvre's avatar

I'm a francophone outside of Quebec, but still with some relatives in la belle province, and we like French's odds of surviving within a united Canada rather than staying distinct in a melting pot and becoming the next Louisiana or New England francophone pocket

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Nora Loreto's avatar

The options here aren't Canada or US annexation.

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Martin Willms's avatar

I ask this as an anglophone Canadian, and apologize for my ignorance: in a scenario where Canada’s sovereignty is under attack what would the most salient argument for Quebec sovereignty?

I can appreciate the desire to express nationhood through an independent state, but doesn’t Quebecers intention to vote for federalist parties reflect the practical calculation that whatever abuse Canada is and has been subjected to, an independent Quebec would be that much more vulnerable?

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Gersande La Flèche's avatar

Interesting because the Bloc is putting all their eggs in the identity politics basket by bashing on immigrant non-Catholics (with their laïcité posters) and non-francophones (with their « je choisi le français » posters -- I may be paraphrasing, but I saw a Bloc poster like that in MTL a few days ago). With the success of fascist movements in the rest of Canada and abroad, you'd think beating on minorities and immigrants (and trans kids) would give the Bloc similar success.

Yet the Bloc is facing the possible loss of half their seats, according to some commentators. I would prefer a strong Bloc to a weak one (because I don't want Canadian politics to become just about the Liberals versus Conservatives, as the NDP fade and the Greens are completely sidelined), but we shall see what happens.

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Ian Weniger's avatar

Hey Nora...if another referendum arrives, and I'm in English Cda, I'd tell everyone to let Québec decide and butt out. If I lived in Parc-Ex or Point-Saint-Charles, I'd be part of a Non campaign that called for solidarity, not competition. I've met other comrades who believe that the movement for Quebec sovereignty is innately progressive and revolutionary. This belief might have been reasonable in 1965 or even 1975. Why does it still have legs today?

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Luc Normandin's avatar

For people to vote for what’s good for them in such a toxic system would require a level of education they are not ready to allow us to experience and medias that are fair…

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