Thank you for your advocacy and data gathering... Trend lines esp in the last week or two would be good to share to see how effectively LTC has responded to the scrutiny of people like you. And as Zwer notes below (since high death rates aren't surprising given the age profile) it's the difference between institutionalized and non-institutionalized groups that matters. In a well run system, those in care should be better protected than those who are "independent"...
Did you look at the overall number of deaths in these institutions annually over the past 5 year period and compare it to deaths during the pandemic?
It would be interesting to see.
I also wonder if data could be analyzed to see the mortality rate between similar groups, institutionalized vs non. E.g. 70-80 year olds w/ the flu who live at home vs living in long term care.
The terrible way in which these places are run has undoubtedly been going on since they were individually founded. People ought to be jailed for their complicity.
This is beyond awful. Suspect that the actual number is close to double. Sounds a great deal like what is going on in many American chronic care facilities, especially if medicare funded. There, I said out loud what people are thinking.
In the institutional care category, deaths are probably not actually double, though they are certainly higher. The main difference is that each of these facilities have death reporting protocol, which isn't the case, obviously, for people in the community, where we're seeing the highest rates of excess mortality.
Thanks for the reply. This clearly is not good news about how chronic care facilities are managed in Canada. Thanks for the clarification about reporting standards for institutional facilities.
Thank you for your advocacy and data gathering... Trend lines esp in the last week or two would be good to share to see how effectively LTC has responded to the scrutiny of people like you. And as Zwer notes below (since high death rates aren't surprising given the age profile) it's the difference between institutionalized and non-institutionalized groups that matters. In a well run system, those in care should be better protected than those who are "independent"...
I assume these are deaths related to COVID-19?
Yes! Thanks for that good eye Kim. I've added that :)
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Hey Nora!
Did you look at the overall number of deaths in these institutions annually over the past 5 year period and compare it to deaths during the pandemic?
It would be interesting to see.
I also wonder if data could be analyzed to see the mortality rate between similar groups, institutionalized vs non. E.g. 70-80 year olds w/ the flu who live at home vs living in long term care.
The terrible way in which these places are run has undoubtedly been going on since they were individually founded. People ought to be jailed for their complicity.
Yes, all interesting paths forward for other research!
This is beyond awful. Suspect that the actual number is close to double. Sounds a great deal like what is going on in many American chronic care facilities, especially if medicare funded. There, I said out loud what people are thinking.
In the institutional care category, deaths are probably not actually double, though they are certainly higher. The main difference is that each of these facilities have death reporting protocol, which isn't the case, obviously, for people in the community, where we're seeing the highest rates of excess mortality.
Thanks for the reply. This clearly is not good news about how chronic care facilities are managed in Canada. Thanks for the clarification about reporting standards for institutional facilities.